[sylpheed:35854] Re: Sylpheed

cgw993 at aol.com cgw993 at aol.com
Sat Nov 2 07:05:28 JST 2013

I do hope your not hacking my computer or browser. I am not a hacker or a

I am sure my browser, in fact all browsers, do have a unique fingerprint.
Even most GNU Linux browsers likely do.   What security measures do I take?
Almost none, as it is too difficult and time consuming to try to figure it
so far.   I think the choice people are left with in a practical sense is to
do like many here are doing, switch over to Linux, Sylpheed and other free
software to at least reduce some of their exposure to surveillance.
Hopefully the volunteers working on decentralizing the internet can continue
to make major progress and help up a stop to what is going on.

-----Original Message-----
From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp] On
Behalf Of tristan
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:45 PM
To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
Subject: [sylpheed:35853] Re: Sylpheed

Your browser fingerprint *appears to be unique* among the 3,545,513 tested
so far.

Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys *at
least 21.76 bits of identifying information.*

The measurements we used to obtain this result are listed below. You can
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On 01/11/2013 22:25, tristan wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 21:52, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
>> Thats ok.   What is puzzling about the media reporting countries being
>> "shocked" about the spying is that
>> -256 bit encryption is still uncrackable without a maybe a quantum 
>> computer -There exists things like network "diodes" that make only 1 
>> direction communication possible
>> This basic scenario describes an impenetrable communication I believe
>> Computer A - Isolated from any network Computer B - connected to 
>> network Computer C - connected to network Computer D - isolated from 
>> any network
>> Computer A can communicate with computer D just fine, just not 
>> conveniently.
>> If the communications are intercepted, a spy still cannot crack 256 
>> bit encryption algorithm (at least one without defects).  BTW in 
>> order for the algorithm to be effective, it can only be made of free 
>> software.  The communication process from computer A to B and C to D 
>> can easily be made unidirectional.  Therefore the NSA for example, 
>> can only monitor communication from Computers B to/from C when the 
>> data is still encrypted making it useless to them.
>> All the countries that are complaining about spying already know 
>> these facts
>> of course and communication on some secure method like this.    This
>> suggests to me that most countries are sharing their data and the 
>> purpose of the spying is to spy on their own citizens I would guess 
>> for economic reasons, control and to keep certain people in power.  
>> It represents the end of a free society and we are watching it happen 
>> right now.  How can this be
>> stopped?   People need to learn how to have secure communications
>> themselves.  Given how the average American has gotten dumber each 
>> year for the last I would guess 50 years, I dont see that happening 
>> any time soon.
>> If anyone reads this and thinks "oh no, these emails are monitored by 
>> the nsa etc",  then you know at that moment you no longer live in a 
>> democratic society.
> Frankly this is very interesting,yes....
> you are spot on..pretty scary though,I do think its a massive 
> ""economic spying scam"
> "and democracy is maybe after all an illusion..?
> I believe in a form of community society..not a consumer society that 
> is bringing us towards chaos and ..
> That is allso why i use Sylpheed
> it resembles to what i conceive of ""society"
> its non agressive & well we are exchanging ideas and opinions so thats 
> more than just a ""thingy"i paid lots for and am proud 
> of...blablabla..
> looks like most of them new of it(European Gov's even coll 
> aborating...)...maybe they all think they are controlling each other!!
> (:-))
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp] 
>> On Behalf Of tristan
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:16 PM
>> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>> Subject: [sylpheed:35849] Re: Sylpheed
>> On 01/11/2013 21:08, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
>>> I am not giving Sylpheed a hard time at all.  I would like to know 
>>> how the licensing concepts work in general.
>>> cgw993
>> i know you are not giving Sylpheed a hard time (:-)) i was joking..
>> your questions are ""légitimate"..most of us have been quite shocked 
>> by the big spy scam nsa,i just use a Freed_ora linux-libre operating 
>> system and avoid using other systems that do not respect my freedom..
>> am no specialist as to gpl and other licenses but if most gnu/linux 
>> os recommended by the gnu_org&  fsf,so i guess Sylpheed's respect our 
>> freedom.otherwise it would not be in the libre_os..
>> tristan
>> ""
>> Linux, as distributed by Linus Torvalds et al, contains non-Free 
>> Software 
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>, 
>> i.e., software that does not respect your essential freedoms 
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/about/what-is-free-software.en.html>,
>> and it
>> induces you to install additional non-Free Software that it doesn't 
>> contain.
>> GNU Linux-libre
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>  is 
>> a project to maintain and publish 100% Free versions of Linux, 
>> removing the 
>> offending<http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.h
>> tml>
>> portions.
>> Freed-ora is a sub-project that prepares and maintains 100% Free RPMs 
>> that track Fedora's non-Free kernels.
>> http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp]
>>> On Behalf Of foxtail at gmx.fr
>>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:37 AM
>>> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>>> Subject: [sylpheed:35843] Re: Sylpheed
>>> I'd much prefer blasting the NSA to space and let them handle 
>>> mysterious Pac man invaders than giving a hard time to Sylpheed..
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : sm0oojzz+sylph at fastimap.com
>>> Envoyé : 01/11/2013 15:53
>>> À : sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>>> Objet : [sylpheed:35842] Re: Sylpheed
>>> On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:47:30 -0700 cgw993 wrote...
>>>> I like Sylpheed.   My only concern is that some of the code is non 
>>>> free I
>>>> guess.   I am hesitant to invest in learning new software unless I 
>>>> know
>>> for
>>>> certain I am not being spied on, that features are not forced on me 
>>>> whenever the developer feels like.  Non free code often can allow 
>>>> this.
>>>> Thx for reading.   Just wanted to rant about Outlook. Microsoft sucks.
>>> If you have concerns about how a developer designs his application, 
>>> you have the option of designing or refining your own.  Find an open 
>>> source MUA and tweak it to your hearts content.  If this is beyond 
>>> your abilities, I guess you have to live with what is available to 
>>> you for
>> **FREE**.

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