[sylpheed:35853] Re: Sylpheed

[tristan]

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On 01/11/2013 22:25, tristan wrote:
> On 01/11/2013 21:52, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
>> Thats ok.   What is puzzling about the media reporting countries being
>> "shocked" about the spying is that
>>
>> -256 bit encryption is still uncrackable without a maybe a quantum 
>> computer
>> -There exists things like network "diodes" that make only 1 direction
>> communication possible
>>
>> This basic scenario describes an impenetrable communication I believe
>>
>> Computer A - Isolated from any network
>> Computer B - connected to network
>> Computer C - connected to network
>> Computer D - isolated from any network
>>
>> Computer A can communicate with computer D just fine, just not 
>> conveniently.
>> If the communications are intercepted, a spy still cannot crack 256 bit
>> encryption algorithm (at least one without defects).  BTW in order 
>> for the
>> algorithm to be effective, it can only be made of free software.  The
>> communication process from computer A to B and C to D can easily be made
>> unidirectional.  Therefore the NSA for example, can only monitor
>> communication from Computers B to/from C when the data is still 
>> encrypted
>> making it useless to them.
>>
>> All the countries that are complaining about spying already know 
>> these facts
>> of course and communication on some secure method like this.    This
>> suggests to me that most countries are sharing their data and the 
>> purpose of
>> the spying is to spy on their own citizens I would guess for economic
>> reasons, control and to keep certain people in power.  It represents 
>> the end
>> of a free society and we are watching it happen right now.  How can 
>> this be
>> stopped?   People need to learn how to have secure communications
>> themselves.  Given how the average American has gotten dumber each 
>> year for
>> the last I would guess 50 years, I dont see that happening any time 
>> soon.
>> If anyone reads this and thinks "oh no, these emails are monitored by 
>> the
>> nsa etc",  then you know at that moment you no longer live in a 
>> democratic
>> society.
>>
>>
> Frankly this is very interesting,yes....
> you are spot on..pretty scary though,I do think its a massive 
> ""economic spying scam"
> "and democracy is maybe after all an illusion..?
> I believe in a form of community society..not a consumer society
> that is bringing us towards chaos and ..
> That is allso why i use Sylpheed
> it resembles to what i conceive of ""society"
> its non agressive & well we are exchanging ideas and opinions
> so thats more than just a ""thingy"i paid lots for and am
> proud of...blablabla..
> looks like most of them new of it(European Gov's even coll
> aborating...)...maybe they all think they are controlling each other!!
> (:-))
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp] On
>> Behalf Of tristan
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:16 PM
>> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>> Subject: [sylpheed:35849] Re: Sylpheed
>>
>> On 01/11/2013 21:08, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
>>> I am not giving Sylpheed a hard time at all.  I would like to know how
>>> the licensing concepts work in general.
>>>
>>> cgw993
>> i know you are not giving Sylpheed a hard time (:-)) i was joking..
>> your questions are ""légitimate"..most of us have been quite shocked 
>> by the
>> big spy scam nsa,i just use a Freed_ora linux-libre operating system and
>> avoid using other systems that do not respect my freedom..
>> am no specialist as to gpl and other licenses but if most gnu/linux os
>> recommended by the gnu_org&  fsf,so i guess Sylpheed's respect our
>> freedom.otherwise it would not be in the libre_os..
>>
>> tristan
>> ""
>>
>> Linux, as distributed by Linus Torvalds et al, contains non-Free 
>> Software
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>, i.e.,
>> software that does not respect your essential freedoms
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/about/what-is-free-software.en.html>, 
>> and it
>> induces you to install additional non-Free Software that it doesn't 
>> contain.
>>
>> GNU Linux-libre
>> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>  is a
>> project to maintain and publish 100% Free versions of Linux, removing 
>> the
>> offending<http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html> 
>>
>> portions.
>>
>> Freed-ora is a sub-project that prepares and maintains 100% Free RPMs 
>> that
>> track Fedora's non-Free kernels.
>>
>> http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp]
>>> On Behalf Of foxtail at gmx.fr
>>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:37 AM
>>> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>>> Subject: [sylpheed:35843] Re: Sylpheed
>>>
>>> I'd much prefer blasting the NSA to space and let them handle
>>> mysterious Pac man invaders than giving a hard time to Sylpheed..
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : sm0oojzz+sylph at fastimap.com
>>> Envoyé : 01/11/2013 15:53
>>> À : sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>>> Objet : [sylpheed:35842] Re: Sylpheed
>>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:47:30 -0700 cgw993 wrote...
>>>
>>>
>>>> I like Sylpheed.   My only concern is that some of the code is non 
>>>> free I
>>>> guess.   I am hesitant to invest in learning new software unless I 
>>>> know
>>> for
>>>> certain I am not being spied on, that features are not forced on me
>>>> whenever the developer feels like.  Non free code often can allow 
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Thx for reading.   Just wanted to rant about Outlook. Microsoft sucks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you have concerns about how a developer designs his application,
>>> you have the option of designing or refining your own.  Find an open
>>> source MUA and tweak it to your hearts content.  If this is beyond
>>> your abilities, I guess you have to live with what is available to 
>>> you for
>> **FREE**.
>>
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