[sylpheed:35852] Re: Sylpheed

[tristan]

On 01/11/2013 21:52, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
> Thats ok.   What is puzzling about the media reporting countries being
> "shocked" about the spying is that
>
> -256 bit encryption is still uncrackable without a maybe a quantum computer
> -There exists things like network "diodes" that make only 1 direction
> communication possible
>
> This basic scenario describes an impenetrable communication I believe
>
> Computer A - Isolated from any network
> Computer B - connected to network
> Computer C - connected to network
> Computer D - isolated from any network
>
> Computer A can communicate with computer D just fine, just not conveniently.
> If the communications are intercepted, a spy still cannot crack 256 bit
> encryption algorithm (at least one without defects).  BTW in order for the
> algorithm to be effective, it can only be made of free software.  The
> communication process from computer A to B and C to D can easily be made
> unidirectional.  Therefore the NSA for example, can only monitor
> communication from Computers B to/from C when the data is still encrypted
> making it useless to them.
>
> All the countries that are complaining about spying already know these facts
> of course and communication on some secure method like this.    This
> suggests to me that most countries are sharing their data and the purpose of
> the spying is to spy on their own citizens I would guess for economic
> reasons, control and to keep certain people in power.  It represents the end
> of a free society and we are watching it happen right now.  How can this be
> stopped?   People need to learn how to have secure communications
> themselves.  Given how the average American has gotten dumber each year for
> the last I would guess 50 years, I dont see that happening any time soon.
> If anyone reads this and thinks "oh no, these emails are monitored by the
> nsa etc",  then you know at that moment you no longer live in a democratic
> society.
>
>
Frankly this is very interesting,yes....
you are spot on..pretty scary though,I do think its a massive ""economic 
spying scam"
"and democracy is maybe after all an illusion..?
I believe in a form of community society..not a consumer society
that is bringing us towards chaos and ..
That is allso why i use Sylpheed
it resembles to what i conceive of ""society"
its non agressive & well we are exchanging ideas and opinions
so thats more than just a ""thingy"i paid lots for and am
proud of...blablabla..
looks like most of them new of it(European Gov's even coll
aborating...)...maybe they all think they are controlling each other!!
(:-))


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp] On
> Behalf Of tristan
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:16 PM
> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
> Subject: [sylpheed:35849] Re: Sylpheed
>
> On 01/11/2013 21:08, cgw993 at aol.com wrote:
>> I am not giving Sylpheed a hard time at all.  I would like to know how
>> the licensing concepts work in general.
>>
>> cgw993
> i know you are not giving Sylpheed a hard time (:-)) i was joking..
> your questions are ""légitimate"..most of us have been quite shocked by the
> big spy scam nsa,i just use a Freed_ora linux-libre operating system and
> avoid using other systems that do not respect my freedom..
> am no specialist as to gpl and other licenses but if most gnu/linux os
> recommended by the gnu_org&  fsf,so i guess Sylpheed's respect our
> freedom.otherwise it would not be in the libre_os..
>
> tristan
> ""
>
> Linux, as distributed by Linus Torvalds et al, contains non-Free Software
> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>, i.e.,
> software that does not respect your essential freedoms
> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/about/what-is-free-software.en.html>, and it
> induces you to install additional non-Free Software that it doesn't contain.
>
> GNU Linux-libre
> <http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>  is a
> project to maintain and publish 100% Free versions of Linux, removing the
> offending<http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html>
> portions.
>
> Freed-ora is a sub-project that prepares and maintains 100% Free RPMs that
> track Fedora's non-Free kernels.
>
> http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp [mailto:sylpheed-bounces at sraoss.jp]
>> On Behalf Of foxtail at gmx.fr
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:37 AM
>> To: sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>> Subject: [sylpheed:35843] Re: Sylpheed
>>
>> I'd much prefer blasting the NSA to space and let them handle
>> mysterious Pac man invaders than giving a hard time to Sylpheed..
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : sm0oojzz+sylph at fastimap.com
>> Envoyé : 01/11/2013 15:53
>> À : sylpheed at sraoss.jp
>> Objet : [sylpheed:35842] Re: Sylpheed
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:47:30 -0700 cgw993 wrote...
>>
>>
>>> I like Sylpheed.   My only concern is that some of the code is non free I
>>> guess.   I am hesitant to invest in learning new software unless I know
>> for
>>> certain I am not being spied on, that features are not forced on me
>>> whenever the developer feels like.  Non free code often can allow this.
>>>
>>> Thx for reading.   Just wanted to rant about Outlook. Microsoft sucks.
>>>
>>>
>> If you have concerns about how a developer designs his application,
>> you have the option of designing or refining your own.  Find an open
>> source MUA and tweak it to your hearts content.  If this is beyond
>> your abilities, I guess you have to live with what is available to you for
> **FREE**.
>