From mail at roland-ramthun.de Mon Nov 1 01:27:25 2010 From: mail at roland-ramthun.de (Roland Ramthun) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:27:25 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34281] Ampersands in HTML mailings Message-ID: <20101031172725.32d9285d.mail@roland-ramthun.de> Hello Sylpheed users and developers, I noted a problem with Sylpheed's HTML->Text converter and our university mailing system. The mailings unfortunately are HTML only and so Sylpheed converts them to text to display them. This process breaks all links, because in HTML ampersands are encoded with & and Sylpheed doesn't reverse this process. An example: Linktext as in the original HTML mailing, should be converted to plain text Linktext but it isn't. Sylpheed already converts HTML entities like " to their plain text correspondent in normal text, but doesn't touch the s at the moment. Do you consider this to be a bug and is there a chance to get this fixed? Kind regards, Roland From savar at schuldeigen.de Mon Nov 1 05:59:18 2010 From: savar at schuldeigen.de (Simon Effenberg) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:59:18 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34282] Re: Cannot save to outbox In-Reply-To: References: <20101002143317.5b0d391d.thfabba@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20101031215918.c5f1e40d.savar@schuldeigen.de> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 14:52:01 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 14:33:17 +0200 Thomas Faber wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have Sylpheed set to automatically check for new mail every > > 10 minutes. If I happen to send an e-mail at the point when > > it's checking for mail (which takes a while; ancient ugly, slow > > IMAPS server), my message gets sent, but as the IMAP connection > > is busy, I receive an error telling me the message could not be > > saved to the outbox. The message window is then closed. > > Thus, I have sent the message, but have no record of it > > whatsoever. > > > > That is.... unacceptable to say the least. > > I second this. "unacceptable" is hard. I'd say extremely disturbing. > > > Has anyone else experienced this? Or do I have a completely messed > > up setting somewhere? Should be a relatively simple fix in any case. > > Yes, I have. It was reported by me at beginning of this year: http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/2010-January/003537.html so yes you're not the only one and i have had the problem with 3.0.2 and now am using 3.1.0beta3 and it is the same behavior. My system is Debian unstable. > > > PS: using Sylpheed 3.0.3, Win32, in case you don't trust message > > headers > > I'm using Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.10.13; i686-pc-linux-gnu) > > --Frank Elsner > -- GnuPG: 5755FB64 Per aspera ad astra. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In sylpheed it displays the & and when you click on them, they are correctly parsed and displayed by the browser. Maybe you could send an example emai ? Rich -- From beacon at videotron.ca Wed Nov 3 06:26:04 2010 From: beacon at videotron.ca (beacon at videotron.ca) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:26:04 -0400 Subject: [sylpheed:34285] Re: Ampersands in HTML mailings In-Reply-To: <20101102160945.6f2c977a.Richard.Coe@med.ge.com> References: <20101031172725.32d9285d.mail@roland-ramthun.de> <20101102160945.6f2c977a.Richard.Coe@med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20101102172604.5f4bb956.beacon@videotron.ca> On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:09:45 -0500 Rich Coe wrote: > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:27:25 +0100 > Roland Ramthun wrote: > > Hello Sylpheed users and developers, > > > > I noted a problem with Sylpheed's HTML->Text converter and our university mailing system. > > > > The mailings unfortunately are HTML only and so Sylpheed converts them to text to display them. > > This process breaks all links, because in HTML ampersands are encoded with & and Sylpheed doesn't reverse this process. > > I don't see what you see. In sylpheed it displays the & and when you > click on them, they are correctly parsed and displayed by the browser. > > Maybe you could send an example emai ? I know what he's talking about - I get html mail from realtors which contain what are supposed to be clickable links, but in Sylpheed they are not clickable. I have to load the actual email into a browser to see what I should see in Sylpheed. Frankly, it's a pain. -- Cheers Frank McCormick From mail at roland-ramthun.de Wed Nov 3 06:46:43 2010 From: mail at roland-ramthun.de (Roland Ramthun) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:46:43 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34286] Re: Ampersands in HTML mailings In-Reply-To: <20101102160945.6f2c977a.Richard.Coe@med.ge.com> References: <20101031172725.32d9285d.mail@roland-ramthun.de> <20101102160945.6f2c977a.Richard.Coe@med.ge.com> Message-ID: <20101102224643.ada7710d.mail@roland-ramthun.de> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:09:45 -0500 Rich Coe wrote: > I don't see what you see. In sylpheed it displays the & and when you > click on them, they are correctly parsed and displayed by the browser. Hello Rich, browsers usually don't parse the given URL any further. If you give an URL with & in it to the browser, it'll usually try to open the address with & in it and not convert it to &. > Maybe you could send an example emai ? Sure, I'll forward an example in a few minutes. Kind regards, Roland From mail at roland-ramthun.de Wed Nov 3 06:49:37 2010 From: mail at roland-ramthun.de (Roland Ramthun) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:49:37 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34287] Re: Ampersands in HTML mailings Message-ID: <20101102224937.69db4707.mail@roland-ramthun.de> When you click on a link, you'll get "Keinen Eintrag f?r diesen Tag gefunden." (No entry found for this day), instead of the event description. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: verteiler at uni-trier.de Subject: (Uni Trier) Veranstaltungen fuer Roland Ramthun Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:52:48 +0100 Size: 18429 Url: http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/attachments/20101102/997212bf/attachment.mht From mail at roland-ramthun.de Wed Nov 3 06:54:50 2010 From: mail at roland-ramthun.de (Roland Ramthun) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:54:50 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34288] Re: Ampersands in HTML mailings In-Reply-To: <20101102224937.69db4707.mail@roland-ramthun.de> References: <20101102224937.69db4707.mail@roland-ramthun.de> Message-ID: <20101102225450.5ec98100.mail@roland-ramthun.de> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:49:37 +0100 Roland Ramthun wrote: > When you click on a link, you'll get "Keinen Eintrag f?r diesen Tag gefunden." (No entry found for this day), instead of the event description. Unfortunately the forwarded mail has been converted to plain text by the mailing list software. I'll forward everyone who wants it an example to his private email address. Sorry for the spam, Roland From v_2e at ukr.net Wed Nov 3 18:05:26 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:05:26 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34289] 3 problems about Sylpheed Message-ID: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello! I have a few technical questions about Sylpheed. 1. Why does Sylpheed store incorrect passwords in its memory? For example, when I try to connect to my POP3 or IMAP mail server and accidentally type a wrong password, I need to restart Sylpheed to have an ability to re-type the password. This is a strange behaviour, since I can see no reason to store incorrect passwords. Or maybe there is a way to workaround which I just don't know about? 2. When I try to create a new account, I get an incorrectly displayed dialog window with some elements hidden behind the window edge (see the screenshot attached or via this link: http://i11.fastpic.ru/big/2010/1103/e3/282d662f04dd87cdc9f61cd1cf715ee3.png ). I use Xfce with its native window manager (XfWM, I guess) - so maybe it is a window manager's fault? 3. Maybe, I have misunderstood, but it seems to me that there had been a decision to make Sylpheed auto-complete the destination e-mail address without 'TAB' key pressing. Or am I wrong? If I'm not, then this feature doesn't work in my case for some reason. The problem is that when I type a few letters of the address (or name) and press "TAB" and there is no such address in my address-book (and this may be just because of a typo), the cursor jumps to the next field making me distracting from the keyboard, taking mouse and getting it back in the address field. This is very annoying I must confess. Thank you. Vladimir ----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can't we either: - have a list with similar entries or - at least _not_ skip to the next field if tab is pressed? John From tastas at gmx.net Thu Nov 4 02:15:38 2010 From: tastas at gmx.net (Andres Buhlmann) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:15:38 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34291] Problems while moving messages Message-ID: <20101103181538.f1b35d31.tastas@gmx.net> Hi I'm trying to move messages (several thousand) from one IMAP account to another one. But the process stops regularly after about 200-400 messages. The debug output tells me the following: [18:04:44] IMAP4> 414 APPEND UPF (\Seen) "13-Jun-2008 13:53:16 +0200" {3033} [18:04:44] IMAP4< + Ready to read 3033 octets. [18:04:44] IMAP4> (sending file...) [18:04:45] IMAP4< 414 NO Mailbox cannot be locked - is there another session active? However, I'm pretty sure that there is no other session active. There is also no automatic mail checking in the background. I have recompiled with threads disabled, but still no success. Does anybody have an idea what's going on? I'm on 3.1.0beta3. Thanks Andres From axelpalm at mail.ee Thu Nov 4 15:47:23 2010 From: axelpalm at mail.ee (Axel Palm) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:47:23 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34292] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> v_2e at ukr.net kirjutas : > > 3. Maybe, I have misunderstood, but it seems to me that there had been > a decision to make Sylpheed auto-complete the destination e-mail > address without 'TAB' key pressing. Or am I wrong? If I'm not, then > this feature doesn't work in my case for some reason. > The problem is that when I type a few letters of the address (or name) > and press "TAB" and there is no such address in my address-book (and > this may be just because of a typo), the cursor jumps to the next field > making me distracting from the keyboard, taking mouse and getting it > back in the address field. This is very annoying I must confess. This is not a solution, but pressing shift-tab takes you back to the initial address field. No need to use mouse. Axel From v_2e at ukr.net Thu Nov 4 17:38:26 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:38:26 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34293] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> Message-ID: <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello! On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:47:23 +0200 Axel Palm wrote: > > This is not a solution, but pressing shift-tab takes you back to the initial > address field. No need to use mouse. > Thanks for this tip! I thought it is the "Ctrl+Shift+Tab" I need to press to do that and it is also not very convenient, but "Shift+Tab" is a bit better. :) On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:03:48 +0900 Hiroyuki Yamamoto wrote: > > I have finally implemented 'true' automatic address completion in the > svn trunk :) Still experimental, but works. (Should be the previous > behavior configurable?) > > Can someone test the feature? > I use Sylpheed 3.0.3 (released in August 2010 I guess), but I cannot see such new auto-completion feature in it. Hasn't this feature got to the 'Stable' branch yet? Regards, Vladimir ----- From v_2e at ukr.net Thu Nov 4 21:38:59 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:38:59 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34294] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101104143859.c2a4b733.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello again! On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:38:26 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:03:48 +0900 > Hiroyuki Yamamoto wrote: > > > > I have finally implemented 'true' automatic address completion in the > > svn trunk :) Still experimental, but works. (Should be the previous > > behavior configurable?) > > > > Can someone test the feature? > > > I use Sylpheed 3.0.3 (released in August 2010 I guess), but I cannot > see such new auto-completion feature in it. Hasn't this feature got to > the 'Stable' branch yet? > Please excuse me for making such a self-dialog in this list, but I have found an answer to my question. I have downloaded and compiled Sylpheed-3.1beta. And now I can see this wonderful new auto-completion feature! :) It works fine. Thanks! Vladimir ----- From dennisn at dennisn.dyndns.org Fri Nov 5 01:04:11 2010 From: dennisn at dennisn.dyndns.org (Dennis Nezic) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:04:11 -0400 Subject: [sylpheed:34295] quoted-printable line-wrapping when quoting is broken? Message-ID: <20101104120411.405c6981.dennisn@dennisn.dyndns.org> When replying to an email that has: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although the newlines in the original text are rendered well, when replying to such messages (with very long non-wrapping lines), they are lost. All the lines get mashed together. It's probably a bug in the line-wrapping code? It doesn't seem to happen with long-lined emails encoded in "7bit", etc. From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 01:40:59 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:40:59 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34296] Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking Message-ID: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> Hello people. In earlier (stable) versions, a message would be marked as read when shown, even if it appeared by selecting a folder (not by clicking on the summary). This was quite handy to quickly check folders where few messages arrived. Now (in 3.1beta3) an extra click is needed. I've checked, but didn't find any option to change this - am I mistaken? John From genegold at fastmail.fm Fri Nov 5 02:01:15 2010 From: genegold at fastmail.fm (Gene Goldenfeld) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:01:15 -0600 Subject: [sylpheed:34297] Searches and Focus Message-ID: <20101104110115.736a29d0.genegold@fastmail.fm> Searches: One thing I really like about 3.1.0b3 (Win32) is the Search bar above the mail list, and how it allows going in and out of searches so easily. Thanks. Maybe it even has a future as a drop down with some of the other choices? Focus: One thing I notice about focus while running Get/Get All while in the Inbox, is that the view initially moves to the bottom of the list, i.e., the new mail, before jumping back up to the first message marked unread as the process completes. Now, if there was some way to let it land at the bottom... Gene From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 06:17:57 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:17:57 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34298] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:40:59 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > Hello people. > > In earlier (stable) versions, a message would be marked as read when > shown, even if it appeared by selecting a folder (not by clicking on > the summary). This was quite handy to quickly check folders where few > messages arrived. Now (in 3.1beta3) an extra click is needed. > > I've checked, but didn't find any option to change this - am I mistaken? > What makes this even more strange, is that selecting a folter, selects a file and shows it contents (but doesn't mark is as read), _then_ pressing 'Next' goes to the next unread file, and this _does_ mark the next file as read (but not the original one). John From v_2e at ukr.net Fri Nov 5 06:29:32 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:29:32 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34299] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello! On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:17:57 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > > What makes this even more strange, is that selecting a folter, selects > a file and shows it contents (but doesn't mark is as read), _then_ > pressing 'Next' goes to the next unread file, and this _does_ mark the > next file as read (but not the original one). > > John > This is not true in my case, for example. On my machine every viewed file is marked as read. Regards, Vladimir ----- From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 06:34:24 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:34:24 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34300] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:29:32 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > This is not true in my case, for example. On my machine every viewed > file is marked as read. Even if the file is (unread) in a folder (eg. archived in a folder by a rule), and you only click on the folder name (not on the summary line)? This used to work with 3.0.x, but not anymore. John From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 08:15:58 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:15:58 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34301] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:34:24 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > Even if the file is (unread) in a folder (eg. archived in a folder by a > rule), and you only click on the folder name (not on the summary line)? > > This used to work with 3.0.x, but not anymore. Ok - solved. It seems something changed in the configuration... - In Common Preferences|Details, 'Always open messages in summary when selected' was set to 1 after starting version 3.1b3, disabling 'Open first unread message when a folder is opened'. I'm not sure what that option means... 'when selected' means summary selected? Or 'open messages in summary'? Can someone help here? John From v_2e at ukr.net Fri Nov 5 09:02:29 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 02:02:29 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34302] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello again! On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:15:58 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > > Ok - solved. It seems something changed in the configuration... > > - In Common Preferences|Details, > > 'Always open messages in summary when selected' was set to 1 after > starting version 3.1b3, disabling 'Open first unread message when a > folder is opened'. > > I'm not sure what that option means... 'when selected' means summary > selected? Or 'open messages in summary'? Can someone help here? > When this feature is turned on (the appropriate checkbox is checked), Sylpheed will ALWAYS show the first message in a folder when you click on the folder's name in the 'Folder View' - regardless of whether there is any unread messages in that folder or not. You may check this out by just clicking on this feature's checkbox - you will see that the next one ("Open first unread message when a folder is opened") becomes grey (i.e. disabled). This means that the second option (to open only unread messages on folder click) becomes meaningless in the present of the first one (to open a message in a folder with or without any unread mail). I hope this helps. Regards, Vladimir ----- From celejar at gmail.com Fri Nov 5 06:53:58 2010 From: celejar at gmail.com (Celejar) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:53:58 -0400 Subject: [sylpheed:34303] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:38:26 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > Hello! > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:47:23 +0200 > Axel Palm wrote: > > > > This is not a solution, but pressing shift-tab takes you back to the initial > > address field. No need to use mouse. > > > Thanks for this tip! I thought it is the "Ctrl+Shift+Tab" I need to > press to do that and it is also not very convenient, but "Shift+Tab" > is a bit better. :) This comes up now and then on the list. When the focus is on the message body, Ctrl-Shift is necessary to bring it back to the headers, but when the focus is still in the headers, Shift suffices. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator From v_2e at ukr.net Fri Nov 5 09:08:44 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 02:08:44 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34304] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101105020844.795966f2.v_2e@ukr.net> Oh, and by the way! When the feature to "Always open messages in summary when selected" is activated, Sylpheed opens the UNREAD messages first when you click on the folder name in the 'Folder View' area. And in this case it really does not mark the first message shown as read. Now I understand what you were talking about. Such behaviour seem strange to me too. I don't know whether it is a bug or feature, but from my point of view it definitely unexpected. Still, it is not so terrible to worry about, I believe. :) Regards, Vladimir ----- From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 09:37:24 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:37:24 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34305] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 02:02:29 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > When this feature is turned on (the appropriate checkbox is checked), > Sylpheed will ALWAYS show the first message in a folder when you click > on the folder's name in the 'Folder View' - regardless of whether there > is any unread messages in that folder or not. Ok, but it still shows the first _unread_ message, if there is one. There seems very little difference. In fact, the only difference I find is that it doesn't mark the message as read. > When the feature to "Always open messages in summary when selected" is activated, > Sylpheed opens the UNREAD messages first when you click on the folder > name in the 'Folder View' area. And in this case it really does not > mark the first message shown as read. Now I understand what you were > talking about. As I said before - the only difference I can find the the marking as read. Both off and on, the option shows the same message selected in summary. > Still, it is not so terrible to worry about, I believe. :) Yes... I was a little surprised that the option _changed_ after upgrading, and just thought it might be of interest to someone. Thanks, Vladimir! From genegold at fastmail.fm Fri Nov 5 10:05:50 2010 From: genegold at fastmail.fm (Gene Goldenfeld) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:05:50 -0600 Subject: [sylpheed:34306] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20101104190550.2ee10351.genegold@fastmail.fm> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:53:58 -0400 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:38:26 +0200 > v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:47:23 +0200 > > Axel Palm wrote: > > > > > > This is not a solution, but pressing shift-tab takes you back to > > > the initial address field. No need to use mouse. > > > > > Thanks for this tip! I thought it is the "Ctrl+Shift+Tab" I need > > to press to do that and it is also not very convenient, but "Shift > > +Tab" is a bit better. :) > > This comes up now and then on the list. When the focus is on the > message body, Ctrl-Shift is necessary to bring it back to the headers, > but when the focus is still in the headers, Shift suffices. Not sure what you're saying here, since in the headers Shift-Tab goes upward one by one. Gene From genegold at fastmail.fm Fri Nov 5 10:10:00 2010 From: genegold at fastmail.fm (Gene Goldenfeld) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:10:00 -0600 Subject: [sylpheed:34307] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101104191000.0fadb503.genegold@fastmail.fm> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:37:24 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 02:02:29 +0200 > v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > > As I said before - the only difference I can find the the marking as > read. Both off and on, the option shows the same message selected in > summary. > > > Still, it is not so terrible to worry about, I believe. :) > > Yes... I was a little surprised that the option _changed_ after > upgrading, and just thought it might be of interest to someone. > The first unread message remaining bold was discussed when 3.1.0b3 came out (Aug 18, 34189). Hiro said it would be changed back in the next update. Gene From celejar at gmail.com Fri Nov 5 10:24:59 2010 From: celejar at gmail.com (Celejar) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:24:59 -0400 Subject: [sylpheed:34308] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104190550.2ee10351.genegold@fastmail.fm> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> <20101104190550.2ee10351.genegold@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <20101104212459.f77971a6.celejar@gmail.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:05:50 -0600 Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:53:58 -0400 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:38:26 +0200 > > v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:47:23 +0200 > > > Axel Palm wrote: > > > > > > > > This is not a solution, but pressing shift-tab takes you back to > > > > the initial address field. No need to use mouse. > > > > > > > Thanks for this tip! I thought it is the "Ctrl+Shift+Tab" I need > > > to press to do that and it is also not very convenient, but "Shift > > > +Tab" is a bit better. :) > > > > This comes up now and then on the list. When the focus is on the > > message body, Ctrl-Shift is necessary to bring it back to the headers, > > but when the focus is still in the headers, Shift suffices. > > Not sure what you're saying here, since in the headers Shift-Tab goes > upward one by one. That's what I said. As we've discussed in the past, it can get a little confusing to remember that if we're still in the headers, Ctrl isn't needed, but if we're already in the body, it is. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator From john at jcoppens.com Fri Nov 5 10:35:43 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:35:43 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34309] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104191000.0fadb503.genegold@fastmail.fm> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104191000.0fadb503.genegold@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <20101104223543.1e86913b.john@jcoppens.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:10:00 -0600 Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > The first unread message remaining bold was discussed when 3.1.0b3 came > out (Aug 18, 34189). Hiro said it would be changed back in the next > update. Great - thanks for the info, Gene! From genegold at fastmail.fm Fri Nov 5 10:37:09 2010 From: genegold at fastmail.fm (Gene Goldenfeld) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:37:09 -0600 Subject: [sylpheed:34310] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104212459.f77971a6.celejar@gmail.com> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> <20101104190550.2ee10351.genegold@fastmail.fm> <20101104212459.f77971a6.celejar@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20101104193709.373b8396.genegold@fastmail.fm> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:24:59 -0400 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:05:50 -0600 > Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > > > > This comes up now and then on the list. When the focus is on the > > > message body, Ctrl-Shift is necessary to bring it back to the > > > headers, but when the focus is still in the headers, Shift > > > suffices. > > > > Not sure what you're saying here, since in the headers Shift-Tab > > goes upward one by one. > > That's what I said. As we've discussed in the past, it can get a > little confusing to remember that if we're still in the headers, Ctrl > isn't needed, but if we're already in the body, it is. Not true here. In 3.1.0b3/Win32, Shift-Tab takes me from body to subject field. Gene From celejar at gmail.com Fri Nov 5 11:09:37 2010 From: celejar at gmail.com (Celejar) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:09:37 -0400 Subject: [sylpheed:34311] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101104193709.373b8396.genegold@fastmail.fm> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104084723.99e5d9cf.axelpalm@mail.ee> <20101104103826.d43e9d82.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104175358.107097c7.celejar@gmail.com> <20101104190550.2ee10351.genegold@fastmail.fm> <20101104212459.f77971a6.celejar@gmail.com> <20101104193709.373b8396.genegold@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <20101104220937.928c7907.celejar@gmail.com> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:37:09 -0600 Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:24:59 -0400 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:05:50 -0600 > > Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > > > > > > This comes up now and then on the list. When the focus is on the > > > > message body, Ctrl-Shift is necessary to bring it back to the > > > > headers, but when the focus is still in the headers, Shift > > > > suffices. > > > > > > Not sure what you're saying here, since in the headers Shift-Tab > > > goes upward one by one. > > > > That's what I said. As we've discussed in the past, it can get a > > little confusing to remember that if we're still in the headers, Ctrl > > isn't needed, but if we're already in the body, it is. > > Not true here. In 3.1.0b3/Win32, Shift-Tab takes me from body to > subject field. Might depend on the OS: http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/2010-July/004087.html http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/2010-July/004093.html Hiro explains that Windows seems to behave differently from other OSs in this regard: http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/2010-July/004103.html Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator From hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp Fri Nov 5 15:38:48 2010 From: hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp (Hiroyuki Yamamoto) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:38:48 +0900 Subject: [sylpheed:34312] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101105153848.cbe98e83.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Hello, On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:05:26 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > Hello! > I have a few technical questions about Sylpheed. > 1. Why does Sylpheed store incorrect passwords in its memory? For > example, when I try to connect to my POP3 or IMAP mail server and > accidentally type a wrong password, I need to restart Sylpheed to have > an ability to re-type the password. This is a strange behaviour, since > I can see no reason to store incorrect passwords. Or maybe there is a > way to workaround which I just don't know about? Hmm, Sylpheed actually clear temporary password when authentication fail. Maybe something strange thing is happening. Can you show the protocol log? > 2. When I try to create a new account, I get an incorrectly displayed > dialog window with some elements hidden behind the window edge (see > the screenshot attached or via this link: > http://i11.fastpic.ru/big/2010/1103/e3/282d662f04dd87cdc9f61cd1cf715ee3.png ). > I use Xfce with its native window manager (XfWM, I guess) - so maybe > it is a window manager's fault? It is caused by the fixed window width, and the translation of 'SMTP server:' is also too long ((...) should be removed). -- Hiroyuki Yamamoto From v_2e at ukr.net Fri Nov 5 19:15:36 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:15:36 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34313] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> Message-ID: <20101105121536.c2edfca4.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello! On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:37:24 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > In fact, the only difference I find is that it doesn't mark the message as read. > Not really. The actual difference is that the 'Open first unread message when a folder is opened' option makes Sylpheed show the first unread message in a folder ONLY if there is at least one unread message in that folder. If there is none, then Sylpheed won't show you anything. In contrast, the 'Always open messages in summary when selected' option will make Sylpheed ALWAYS show some message: - it will be the first unread message if there are some unread messages in a folder; - it will be the first READ message in the list in case there are no unread messages in that folder. So, this new feature will ALWAYS show you some message on clicking the folder name in a 'Folder View' area. On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:10:00 -0600 Gene Goldenfeld wrote: > > The first unread message remaining bold was discussed when 3.1.0b3 came > out (Aug 18, 34189). Hiro said it would be changed back in the next > update. I guess this is the reason of all the misunderstanding and all the concerns here. :) And it definitely looks more like a bug than a feature. Regards, Vladimir ----- From v_2e at ukr.net Fri Nov 5 20:03:30 2010 From: v_2e at ukr.net (v_2e at ukr.net) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:03:30 +0200 Subject: [sylpheed:34314] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101105153848.cbe98e83.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101105153848.cbe98e83.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20101105130330.b3b75de8.v_2e@ukr.net> Hello! On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:38:48 +0900 Hiroyuki Yamamoto wrote: > > Hmm, Sylpheed actually clear temporary password when authentication > fail. Maybe something strange thing is happening. > Can you show the protocol log? > Here is a log of such an event: ########## Begin Log ########## [12:53:59] POP3< +OK mPOP POP3 server ready <17345.1288954131 at ukr.net> [12:53:59] POP3> USER v_2e [12:53:59] POP3< +OK Password required for user v_2e [12:53:59] POP3> PASS ******** [12:54:10] POP3< -ERR Access for user "v_2e" disabled. See http://wiki.ukr.net/POP3 for details. ** LibSylph-WARNING: [12:54:10] error occurred on authentication ** error occurred on authentication [12:54:43] POP3< +OK mPOP POP3 server ready <80770.1288954108 at ukr.net> [12:54:43] POP3> USER v_2e [12:54:43] POP3< +OK Password required for user v_2e [12:54:43] POP3> PASS ******** [12:54:53] POP3< -ERR Access for user "v_2e" disabled. See http://wiki.ukr.net/POP3 for details. ** LibSylph-WARNING: [12:54:53] error occurred on authentication ** error occurred on authentication ########### End Log ########### I'll describe what I did. I pressed a 'Remote POP3 mailbox' button on the toolbar. Then I typed a wrong password in the dialog box appeared. Sylpheed tried to connect to my mailbox and warned be about authentication failure. After that I just clicked again on the 'Remote POP3 mailbox' button. This time Sylpheed didn't ask me for a password, but instead tried to connect to the server again. And of course, it failed again, since I haven't typed a correct password. This happens with automatic mailbox checking too. And not only with stable Sylpheed 3.0.3, but with Sylpheed 3.1.0beta3 too. Regards, Vladimir ----- From john at jcoppens.com Sat Nov 6 00:17:11 2010 From: john at jcoppens.com (John Coppens) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:17:11 -0300 Subject: [sylpheed:34315] Re: Changed behaviour (3.1b3) for message marking In-Reply-To: <20101105121536.c2edfca4.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101104134059.3972d58f.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104181757.ae69d9dd.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104232932.d9476da1.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104183424.48abfe24.john@jcoppens.com> <20101104201558.c2f63995.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105020229.6f81e245.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101104213724.54712506.john@jcoppens.com> <20101105121536.c2edfca4.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101105121711.9c429572.john@jcoppens.com> On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:15:36 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > In contrast, the 'Always open messages in summary when selected' > option will make Sylpheed ALWAYS show some message: Ahhh... I found what the difference is: Disabling 'Always open messages in summary when selected' means that the (actual) message text will not change (or remain blank) in the message window if the selection changes in the summary window by changing folder, or even by moving the selection with the arrow keys (which is a very confusing behaviour). It means you can have a different message selected in Summary from the one displayed in the message window. I suppose there could be arguments for that... I would like to suggest changing the text to: 'Always open messages when selected in summary' Anyway - it does make the 3.1b3 behaviour a bug in need to be corrected, as Gene signalled. John From hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp Tue Nov 9 18:27:18 2010 From: hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp (Hiroyuki Yamamoto) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:27:18 +0900 Subject: [sylpheed:34316] Re: 3 problems about Sylpheed In-Reply-To: <20101105130330.b3b75de8.v_2e@ukr.net> References: <20101103110526.1b65ae1a.v_2e@ukr.net> <20101105153848.cbe98e83.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> <20101105130330.b3b75de8.v_2e@ukr.net> Message-ID: <20101109182718.abd87f84.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Hello, On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:03:30 +0200 v_2e at ukr.net wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:38:48 +0900 > Hiroyuki Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hmm, Sylpheed actually clear temporary password when authentication > > fail. Maybe something strange thing is happening. > > Can you show the protocol log? > > > Here is a log of such an event: > ########## Begin Log ########## > [12:53:59] POP3< +OK mPOP POP3 server ready <17345.1288954131 at ukr.net> > [12:53:59] POP3> USER v_2e > [12:53:59] POP3< +OK Password required for user v_2e > [12:53:59] POP3> PASS ******** > [12:54:10] POP3< -ERR Access for user "v_2e" disabled. See > http://wiki.ukr.net/POP3 for details. ** LibSylph-WARNING: [12:54:10] > error occurred on authentication > > ** error occurred on authentication > [12:54:43] POP3< +OK mPOP POP3 server ready <80770.1288954108 at ukr.net> > [12:54:43] POP3> USER v_2e > [12:54:43] POP3< +OK Password required for user v_2e > [12:54:43] POP3> PASS ******** > [12:54:53] POP3< -ERR Access for user "v_2e" disabled. See > http://wiki.ukr.net/POP3 for details. ** LibSylph-WARNING: [12:54:53] > error occurred on authentication > > ** error occurred on authentication > ########### End Log ########### > I'll describe what I did. > I pressed a 'Remote POP3 mailbox' button on the toolbar. Then I > typed a wrong password in the dialog box appeared. Sylpheed tried to > connect to my mailbox and warned be about authentication failure. > After that I just clicked again on the 'Remote POP3 mailbox' button. > This time Sylpheed didn't ask me for a password, but instead tried to > connect to the server again. And of course, it failed again, since I > haven't typed a correct password. > This happens with automatic mailbox checking too. And not only with > stable Sylpheed 3.0.3, but with Sylpheed 3.1.0beta3 too. Remote POP3 mailbox didn't clear wrong password when auth failed. I've fixed it in svn trunk. I could not reproduce the bug in normal POP3 nor IMAP4 session, though. (start Sylpheed -> press Get -> input wrong password -> error -> press Get -> Sylpheed asks password) -- Hiroyuki Yamamoto From hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp Fri Nov 12 20:23:50 2010 From: hiro-y at kcn.ne.jp (Hiroyuki Yamamoto) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:23:50 +0900 Subject: [sylpheed:34317] Server maintenance Message-ID: <20101112202350.36c0d44c.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Hello, The server will be down for server maintenance from Sat, 13 November AM5:00 to 14 November AM0:00 (JST). All services on sraoss.jp will not be available for the maintenance. Sorry for inconvenience. -- Hiroyuki Yamamoto From frank at frank.uvena.de Sun Nov 21 20:58:25 2010 From: frank at frank.uvena.de (Frank Lanitz) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:58:25 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34318] IMAP: Sending flags for offline read mails to IMAP once online again Message-ID: <20101121125825.743e5cb6.frank@frank.uvena.de> Hi, From time to time I need to read a huge number of mails off line. So I do use the cache function for IMAP to have the locally stored so I can read them. But now and then it happens that I get lost once I'm back online in which mail I already did read and which I didn't as once connected to IMAP again the status of mails on server is overwriting my local read status. Is there a way on how to populate this information into other direction? So sending the read flag to the server so the IMAP-server is knowing also I did read the mail and isn't it marking as unread again? Cheers, Frank -- Frank Lanitz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: has-attachment.png Type: image/png Size: 4103 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.sraoss.jp/pipermail/sylpheed/attachments/20101123/4ae453c7/attachment-0001.png From genegold at fastmail.fm Wed Nov 24 02:54:40 2010 From: genegold at fastmail.fm (Gene Goldenfeld) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:54:40 -0700 Subject: [sylpheed:34320] Re: Sylpheed 3.1beta3 released In-Reply-To: <20100818154906.6b239704.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> References: <20100818154906.6b239704.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20101123105440.d8f5fa99.genegold@fastmail.fm> There have been occasional discussions about the unmarking of new emails and newsgroup posts requiring a specific click. There's also a problem the other way, too. If I want to re-bold (mark as unread) an email and move it to another folder while keeping that mark, it's not possible with this beta; it loses its bold as soon as I click on it to move. As I recall, earlier versions kept the mark. Gene From bbowler at bigelow.org Wed Nov 24 06:17:22 2010 From: bbowler at bigelow.org (Bruce Bowler) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:17:22 -0500 Subject: [sylpheed:34321] Re: windows version question In-Reply-To: <20100407130639.ad855fca.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> References: <20100224153301.4d0fe267.bbowler@bigelow.org> <20100225005513.29bcc833.Stefaan.Eeckels@ecc.lu> <20100406084851.19ac8ec5.bbowler@bigelow.org> <20100407130639.ad855fca.hiro-y@kcn.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20101123161722.4913cf27.bbowler@bigelow.org> Time to drag out the old "dead horse" whip and see if there's any update on (or hope of) getting spell checking in the windows version of sylpheed. The lack of spell checking is one of only 3 complaints I have with sylpheed (at least one of the others is, I suspect, a local configuration problem of some sort [see my questions about printing] and the other has improved a lot lately [the address book interface]) As a pointer to another (initially linux) application that now supports windows with spellchecking enabled on all platforms, I'd urge Hiro to look at the "pan" newsreader (pan.rebelbase.com or if you prefer nntp, gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.{devel|user}). I believe that the windows port uses aspell, but I'm not sure which version/interface. Thanks! Bruce On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:06:39 +0900 Hiroyuki Yamamoto put fingers to keyboard and said: > Hello, > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:48:51 -0400 > Bruce Bowler wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:55:13 +0100 > > Stefaan A Eeckels put fingers to keyboard > > and said: > > > > > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:33:01 -0500 > > > Bruce Bowler wrote: > > > > > > > What is the likelyhood of ever (ok, ever is a long long time, > > > > how about in the near future) of getting a pre-built windows > > > > version that has a spell checker integrated and/or ldap support? > > > > > > I second the request for a spell checker and LDAP. Especially the > > > absence of a spell checker in the Windows version has lost > > > Sylpheed quite a few users over here. > > > > Not attempting to beat a dead horse, but I was just googling > > something else related to sylpheed and came across a question in > > September 2006 (message #30017) asking for windows spell checking, > > so it's a *long standing* request (that's not even on the TODO list > > at the website )-: > > > > Hiro, is there anything we, as users, can do to help spur along > > development of a version for windows that includes spell checking > > as a built in feature (personally, I'm not interested in claws)? > > I want to know whether GtkSpell can work under Windows or not. > (Sylpheed's spell checking feature uses GtkSpell + aspell/enchant). > > -- > Hiroyuki Yamamoto -- +-------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ Bruce Bowler | We are prepared for any unforeseen event which may 1.207.633.9610 | or may not occur. bbowler at bigelow.org | - Dan Quayle +-------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ From ervin.peters at ervnet.de Fri Nov 26 17:26:06 2010 From: ervin.peters at ervnet.de (Ervin Peters) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:26:06 +0100 Subject: [sylpheed:34322] Fw: Gentoo [Bug 335838] mail-client/sylpheed-3.0.3 doubleclick switches mouse to dragmode Message-ID: <20101126092606.901c1286.ervin.peters@ervnet.de> Someone else did recognize the same Problem: --------------8<------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:57:00 +0000 (UTC) From: bugzilla-daemon at gentoo.org To: ervin.peters at ervnet.de Subject: [Bug 335838] mail-client/sylpheed-3.0.3 doubleclick switches mouse to dragmode DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: Clear-Text: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335838 hattya at gentoo.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |UPSTREAM ------- Comment #1 from hattya at gentoo.org 2010-11-25 09:56 0000 ------- I've encountered same problem. It seems that this is an upstream bug, please report this to upstream. --------------8<------------------ Just to inform. ervin -- Ervin Peters Paul-Klee-Str.10 D-99425 Weimar +49 172 2043926 +49 3643 805745